sometimes i go see SS posts and regret it immediately

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“I like how Kishimoto writes the two of them in sync. Sasuke and Sakura are shown to be able to read each other really well - Sasuke picks up on Sakura’s depression, Sakura notes how panicked Sasuke is here.”

yeah cause if somebody is totally freaking out, it’s only natural that only a couple connected through feelings of tru luv is able to tell.

“What makes it stand out is how neither of them can read Naruto nearly as well.”

NEITHER OF THEM CAN READ NARUTO NEARLY AS WELL? SERIOUSLY? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? YOU GOTTA BE. 

“I mean, yes, Sasuke’s attention to detail is what made him pick up on the first person pretending to be Naruto and they were both able to figure out Naruto woudn’t be able to memorize such a complicated code word as Sasuke’s ninja song.”

Yeah, this person noticed how fucking stupid that statement was BUT THEN MANAGED TO SAY SOMETHING WAY MORE STUPID. 

Did you happen to see that neat panel where sakura actually SIGHS in relief to see that Naruto remembered that long ass ninja song? Sasuke actually used it as a password because he knew Sakura would be able to remember it and Naruto wouldn’t. It’s his observation skills here, it’s not like tru luv feelings.

“But the big one, when Naruto held up his hand to say he was going to take the final question, no matter what surprised them both.”

wow now that is totally LOVE if two people who happen to be ON THE SAME TEAM get surprised if one of their teammates makes a decision that could probably be a huge fuckup. They are so in love omg.

I don’t even know how their brains work

Anonymous SENT: What makes you think Sakura is unhappy with her marriage? Lol

I don’t think anything. On the latest interview from Kishimoto, it apparently says that he still doesn’t know about how satisfied she is with the marriage. As far as I’m concerned, she’s happy cause she’s got the D. That’s why I said she ‘may’ be unhappy, but there’s no way to confirm this until someone translates the whole thing.

So, the article’s title is kinda like this:

It says something like: “Sakura’s seiyuu believes Sakura is happy about her marriage with Sasuke” and Kishimoto says: “I don’t know yet”

on that article, kishimoto said he didn’t know how sakura and sasuke would end up

and it says he was broadly grinning

cause you know, married people kissing maybe isn’t really a part of the japanese culture, but straight-out DENYING a kiss to your wife probably isn’t as well

kishi had the time to draw sasuke and naruto kissing just for the lulz

i don’t think it’d be difficult to draw a SS/NH kiss to show us their intimacy.

the last scene where sasuke just turns around and goes away could have been easily replaced with a kiss.

but.

So, this person reblogged me and said something about SNS/SS

http://sasunaruism.co.vu/post/125873945674/so-yeah I posted this, and I got this answer from this very lovely person:

zotmoun Look at yourself mate, the sasusaku Fandom has the Manga, anime,sd series and video games , Sasunaru only edits and make fan theories.Guess who doing all the talking. 

I wasn’t going to even bother replying to this, but what you said was SO FUCKING RICH I had to. And I even removed the reblogs just so that everybody could see how stupid you made yourself look.

You’re probably right. Sasuke sacrificed himself for Sakura on the fight with Haku and would be totally okay to let Naruto fall on lava. Sasuke COULDN’T kill Sakura at the Valley of the End but didn’t think TWICE about killing Naruto after his fight with Danzou, who would’ve been dead if Sakura and Kakashi hadn’t come save him.

Sasuke CRITICIZED Naruto for everything, and NEVER acknowledged him as strong and an equal. Naruto was always the “annoying” one. But actually always admired Sakura and her shinobi abilities.

Do you see the irony?

Here’s the manga you say: “SS shippers have” to back them up. I wasn’t going to look it up and show it to you because I’m sure you read it already (although with questionable reading comprehension) but I recommend you take a look at it again.

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Are you sure it wasn’t a SS doujinshi you read instead of the REAL manga?

Dude you’re in too deep, because all SS you have in the manga is basically:

- Sasuke not hesitating to kill Sakura, who’d be totally dead by now if it wasn’t for Kakashi and Naruto

- Sasuke never acknowledging Sakura for anything

- Calling her annoying

- Not giving a single fuck about her after timeskip

- Not contacting her even though they’re married. Sasuke wouldn’t even meet Sarada if it wasn’t for Naruto, and wouldn’t even meet Sakura if it wasn’t for Sarada. Not even fucking kissing her on the manga when apparently they had sex

But of course, if a forehead poke, a “thank you” and a “family” (he didn’t see for 12 years) make up for ALL the shit that makes your pairing look like CRAP.

I’m sorry if SNS has only theories to back us up. It’s totally delusional to support a pairing in which both of them are WILLING to sacrifice themselves for each other and care about each other, and are, in the most literal sense of the word, soulmates. It’s really more logical to support a pairing in which one side has attempted to murder the other, always ALWAYS giving the other side shit. Ignoring, hurting, making it perfectly clear that he doesn’t like her. But of course, if the author puts them together in the end, it makes EVERYTHING okay and he automatically loves her with all his heart.

Now I won’t be answering you anymore, I think this is enough and if you go further than this… you’re gonna prove yourself to be more dense than you look right now.

Just don’t embarrass yourself anymore stalking anti tags. Stay in your lane.

So, yeah.

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And then we have this.

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Keep talking.

What really bothers me about SS

SPOILER: longass rantass post

Okay, SS is a toxic pairing and we all know it – I won’t get into the reasons why because everyone with logical thinking can see that. It’s not the pairing itself what bothers me the most: it’s the fandom.

You see, SS, for me, is as much as a crackship as any other crackship out there. Not in the strict sense of “not having any interactions” because that would not be true, of course, but I would never regard a one-sided pairing as a real relationship. That’s why I’d also never ship NH fully based on the manga, because that’s as one-sided as one can get.

Granted, NH (pairing) has an advantage over SS for the following reason:

The nature of the feelings the boys held for the girls was completely different. NH could have been amazing if it wasn’t forceful and terribly developed. (It was also disappointing since NS began to look like a “red herring” - when it clearly wasn’t. If anything, it’s a plain lie). What I mean is, Nardo was completely neutral about Hinata. It seems logical that feelings would start to develop from “a weirdo ghost who I gave zero fucks about” to “a special girl who I have begun to understand and like overtime” because that’s relatable. Now, Sas was always pretty straightforward about his feelings for Sak. She was always seen as a nuisance to him and he wouldn’t sugarcoat it.

He never liked her and it was pretty clear, just as clear as Sakura not liking Naruto at all. Just this makes the pairing seem very, very forced – but even then, SS fans tend to use the following argument: “Sasuke was actually hiding his feelings for Sakura because he thought bonds made him weaker”. This argument (as flawed and questionable it is) would make sense, but only if we’re only considering phase 1, since he went as far as to try to kill Naruto, the one he saw as his most precious friend, and left the village to get his revenge. (And a really important thing that’s worth pointing out: he couldn’t do it, even though it meant the possibilty of not having enough power to defeat Itachi - and attempting to kill Sakura later on would be just a waste of chakra since her death would give him nothing.)

There was a time when Sas actually thought “hey, maybe I can forget about revenge and chill with my leaf fellas”, but even then he showed no more to Sakura than he would to another teammate – you can literally put any other person on Team 7 and he would act the same way towards them because his feelings were starting to change. Heck, his feelings for Sakura could have changed back then, but he cut his bonds with Team 7 before that could happen. The moment he left, he gave her no thoughts at all, and the moment they saw each other again, at the reunion, he literally gave NO FUCKS about her. That’s how strong their bond was. Then next…

The infamous murder attempt. No, that’s really the funniest part (and by funny I mean “this makes me so mad to the point I consider leaving this world for good” cringe-worthy attitude that SS holds regarding all the aspects of the pairing and the manga itself) and what bothers me the most. And here I’ll also compare SS to SK, because I think they differ at least at this point. Sasuke showed to care little about both Karin and Sakura – since it doesn’t make sense to cut your bonds with people if you’re going to find other people to form bonds with – and the difference is very subtle, but it’s there. He used Karin with no second thoughts at all, if that meant he would be able to kill Danzou. She was important to Taka due to her abilities, but at this point he showed us how disposable she was to him (not that she wasn’t important, it just meant that his goals mattered more than a comrade). Sasuke just told Sakura to kill Karin so she would get distracted, making an opening for him to kill her. Suppose he didn’t know her true intentions, couldn’t he have waited, hoping to get two birds killed with one stone, since Karin was “useless” due to being deeply wounded? That, in my eyes, shows that he saw Karin’s importance to him, the team, whatever. I don’t actually ship SK with passion (though I think it’d be better than SS due to the nature of feelings I mentioned earlier), but I thought that, in this moment, Sakura was put in a place below the girl that was completely useless and would be better off dead, since taking care of her afterwards would definitely be a nuisance for Sasuke. That’s their bond, everyone!

But what does the fandom do? Talk about how the moment was filled with sexual tension. Do you read with your eyes? Eye smex? What the hell is that?

This is one of the many ways SS shippers find to twist reality to fit the way they think things should be. The way they see the pairing, heck, how they see Naruto as a whole… it makes me angry. They see what they want to see. And, look, it’s not even exclusive to them, because everybody does that from time to time, since it all comes down to the way we perceive things. That’s the human nature. We see things based on our experiences, hopes, views on the world and a lot of other aspects that are inherent to each individual.

That’s not the issue here. The problem I have with them is how the expression “shipping goggles” just isn’t enough for them. It goes way beyond that. They try so hard to find positive things on a pairing that has nothing positive about.

And they will fight and yell about things that no one knows as if they were true. You always see some people claiming “but Sasuke has always loved Sakura!” guess what: we will never know if he likes her or not because they have no moments whatsoever to prove it. Just a forehead poke that was shared between brothers and every time Itachi wanted to push him away. They haven’t even kissed. “They had sex!” Big fucking deal. I don’t know where you came from, but sex without kisses means SHIT, if it meant anything, we’d see a lot of clients in love with prostitutes. (I am not trying to compare Sakura to a prostitute and I definitely do not want to offend prostitutes, so please don’t get me wrong.)

“Sakura saved him from the darkness!” Remove the goggles and talk logic here: who has saved every single fucked up character from the darkness in the series? The main character. It’s his fucking job to save people. Naruto saved Sasuke, and the best part is: Sasuke says it himself. But SS shippers claim that it was Sakura. Puh-lease.

When we talk about SS moments – the true moments, for example when she tried to stop him from leaving and he thanked her, or when she managed to make the cursed seal stop taking over Sasuke – it’s all about Sakura. It’s all about her confessing her feelings, about her worrying about him, about her being ready to sacrifice everything to be with him (for her own selfish reasons, but whatever I won’t get into that) but we never see anything coming from Sasuke. Actually, all we get from Sasuke is how annoying she is and how she doesn’t understand him at all. Actually… Sasuke said himself there’s no reason whatsoever for him to like her (and this is Narutoverse. Wanna talk realworldverse? It’s no better. Kishi himself said he found no reason that was worth writing about. But as long as it’s useful to prove something positive about your pairing, love doesn’t need a reason, right?)

People have been shitting on their pairing for the longest time now. And I’m not even talking about the haters. Sasuke shits on Sakura’s hopes every single time. Every time he tells her she’s annoying, shows nothing more than cordiality towards her, tries to kill her, has a kid with her but apparently won’t even give her a kiss. But no matter what Sasuke does or what Kishimoto writes, the fandom will always be faithful and try to push this “truth” of theirs down everyone’s throats and treat fanon as if it was canon. Because canon SS sucks. It always did. And it annoys me how they’re always spitting “canon” in our faces and saying that it’s us who can’t interpret things.

I came across a post on narutoforums and this guy made a really nice point

When Kishimoto talked about “Sakura’s addiction to Sasuke”, he used this word: 中毒

中 = middle
毒 = poison, toxic, ill will, malice, bad influence, harm

So the word basically means that Sakura is immersed in poison when it comes to Sasuke. 

Japanese is a really subtle language, the wordplay is there and we all know how much Japanese people use symbolisms. And you can see how this is a very negative word.

Then he went on saying that there are other terms to describe the addiction that wouldn’t sound as negative or derogatory (like this one, that would explain PERFECTLY a “healthy” addiction caused by infatuation). But that’s the word he chose.

When you think shit can’t get any worse

Kishimoto knows his shit.

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